1:41 am - 05/01/2006

Binding breasts

I have an odd question, is binding one’s breasts, in the long run bad for them? I don’t bind that often, this question is mainly out of curiosity. I was just wondering if it had any negative effects, like in the long run making them more saggy or what not.

For those who may not know, binding is when you bound your breasts with tape or ace bandages, so you appear flat chested.
aechei 1st-May-2006 05:52 am (UTC)
i think that you could eventually make them permanently odd-shaped if you did it all the time, but occasionally wont do any damage. especially if you are binding them up rather than down, if you know what i mean. up feels better too.

um, bind my d cups often enough to have a full on drag persona. and have considered doing it in lieu of a bra on a few occasions, if i could only find my good ACE.
robynchick 1st-May-2006 06:24 am (UTC)
I agree about binding *up* not down. I imagine it would offer the same sort of support as a bra all things considered...
angel_eyes224 1st-May-2006 06:32 am (UTC)
I don't know much about this (binding) so I may be wrong but it seems to me it would be kinda hard to permanently mis-shape your breasts sice they are mostly composed of fat.
aechei 1st-May-2006 06:43 am (UTC)
having watched the groove grow in my (chubby) little bro's arm from a tight watch, i have to say you can totally misshape fat. granted his wrist is normal now, but this was like....5 years ago and he has grown a ton since then. us full-grown people don't have that luxury, y'know?
angel_eyes224 1st-May-2006 06:55 am (UTC)
Hmmmm....yeah I've seen that happen before. I dunno it just seems weird to me to think you can mis-shape your breasts.
brigittefires 1st-May-2006 10:27 am (UTC)
it happens when you wear an ill-fitting bra, too. And they are not all fat--the gland inside them is held in place with strings of tissue which I can't remember the name of (insomnia, sorry) and can become detached or stretch out, which is a big part of what causes sagging.
groundisnotmine 1st-May-2006 01:12 pm (UTC)
I've also read that sleeping on your stomach will misshape them too. I've slept on my stomach since I was a little kid (18 now) and I have really small breasts so that may indicate something.
angabel 1st-May-2006 03:42 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that's just a myth. I've almost always slept on my stomach, and I recently went up a cup size.
queensugar 2nd-May-2006 01:50 am (UTC)
I also am going to go with "myth" on that one. If sleeping on one's stomach could permanently affect the shape or size of fat deposits in your breasts, theoretically my butt would be all tiny. Since it most definitely is not, I'm going to have to chalk it up to myth.

Realistically, flesh just doesn't permanently alter itself from something as innocuous as sleeping shape. There are certainly ways to permanently alter the shape of the body, but they generally require very extensive and dedicated commitment to doing so.
laura_thrice 1st-May-2006 11:08 pm (UTC)
cooper's ligaments!
geminigirl 1st-May-2006 06:46 am (UTC)
I have to admit, I don't really know an answer to this question, but, I suspect you might find an answer in some of the transgender communities if you don't find a satisfactory one here.
emmycantbemeeko 1st-May-2006 07:10 am (UTC)
No one knows exactly what it is that causes some breasts to be perky and others to sag, so a definite objective answer to this question is probably not available. I'd imagine that you'd have to bind tightly enough and frequently enough to cause mechanical damage (ie, the bindings would have to make a direct, visible impact on your breasts) to make a difference in the shape of your breasts, and even then that might not be permanent. There might be some concern if you bound them very tightly that it could affect lymph drainage, as some people have posited that underwire bras may do, but that's pretty iffy. I imagine having your skin tightly wrapped isn't great for it, but again probably not going to be fatal.

I would ask around in trans communities. I imagine they'd have anecdotal evidence, although bear in mind no matter what you hear that some people sag and some people don't, naturally, and that what people attribute their sag or lack thereof to may not have anything to do with it- it's just coincidental.
brigittefires 1st-May-2006 10:33 am (UTC)
My doc once told me that consistently wearing an bra that's too tight puts too much pressure on the breasts and can cause sagging, deformities, and breast cancer. He (yes, it was a he) could have been trying to scare me into wearing a bra that fit right, or he could have been talking out of his *ahem* and parroting my mother (who also told me this).

The key there is "consistently." occasionally prolly wouldn't hurt, and even daily for three weeks (I was in a play) didn't seem to do any real damage beyond some temporary bruusing--and I had to stop wearing a bra that three weeks, so my bust was either tightly bound or very free.

Then again, I'm not the perkiest DD cup I've seen, but I've also seen a lot worse lol.
lutraphile 1st-May-2006 12:54 pm (UTC)
I don't bind, but from what I've heard over in genderqueer, it can break down the tissue in your breasts over time and leave them kinda saggy. I'd check there for further information :)
joybeans 1st-May-2006 12:58 pm (UTC)
I only know that binding your breats to get ride of breastmilk is an awful idea. It can cause a lot of painful problems and infections. It's an interesting question about binding 'regular' boobs. I would assume doing it on occasion wouldn't be a big deal, but probably prolonged binding could potentially cause problems.
quixotic 1st-May-2006 01:34 pm (UTC)
i don't know about negative effects of binding in general, but binding with an ace bandage is definitely not a good idea. an ace bandage is designed to immobilize a joint -- movement causes it to tighten. when you're wearing it over your chest, the movement of your breathing will cause it to gradually tighten as you wear it, which could cause some serious problems.

restlesspoetry 1st-May-2006 01:54 pm (UTC)
yeah, if you do it often enough it will break down the tissue and make them sort of saggy looking. also; i would recommend a back brace or something similar instead of ace wraps or tape. it doesn't cut into the skin as much and is less painful (and intended to be worn for longer periods of time).
below_the_belt 1st-May-2006 06:18 pm (UTC)
yes, it can eventually change the shape and size of your breasts. saggy, yes.. if you bind often, like full-time, and if you're trying to pass as having a flat chest you may push your breasts out to the sides, like under your armpits, to make them less visible. and eventually you will have flatter, saggier breasts that naturally flop out towards the sides.

i've noticed these changes in my chest in the past year or so of binding, and many of my friends who bind have had similar experiences. but it depends on how often, and how you position your chest in your binding, and what you use - ace bandages, masking tape, duct tape, corset, 'men's girdle', something marketed as a binder - there are a lot of ways to go. they'll all affect your body differently.

but it sounds like with what you're doing, occasionally and with ace bandages, it won't make that much of a difference. that's my guess.
babydike 1st-May-2006 06:36 pm (UTC)
long term binding can cause breast cells to deteriorate, making them saggy and odd shaped. also i dont recommend using ace bandages as they get tighter every time you breathe in and out and can cause serious damage, also tape is a NO NO even over a beater or sports bra.....look into www.underworks.com to find a binder thats where i got mine and i love it. you may want to check out the birls community people post about this subject all the tiem.
lutraphile 2nd-May-2006 12:29 am (UTC)
Yeah, I forgot to mention, they make special binders and compression bras so you don't have to wear bandages. check birls or genderqueer for recs.
autumn_sylver 2nd-May-2006 01:41 am (UTC)
I had a completely different idea of what you were talking about, until you explained that you were talking about binding them so you appear flat-chested. There's also something in the BDSM community called breast bondage, where the breasts are tied up and sometimes tortured.
la_marip0sa Binding breasts14th-Nov-2010 05:51 am (UTC)
ace bandages are not the recommended way to bind because of the fact that they become tighter every time they're stretched and then relaxed. In the short term this isn't much of an issue, (Aside from the fact that it's harder to breathe while you're wearing them.) but in the long term, with frequent use or for long stretches of time (or both...) it can weaken your chest muscles and warp your ribcage, making it hard to breathe even when you're not wearing the bandages
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