3:15 pm - 03/11/2015

endless yeast infection + boric acid question

Hi there!

So, I appear to have a yeast infection from hell that's pretty much unconquerable. Went to the gyno last month after having classic yeast infection symptoms a few days after my period - she diagnosed me with a YI and gave me diflucan (two doses, taken 72 hours apart) plus a topical ointment, which together cleared up the infection for the most part in about three days. I say "for the most part," because there was still a slight bit of discharge lingering after the treatment, but it wasn't irritating to me, so I just didn't pay attention to it. But then this month, same thing! A few days after my most recent period ended, the YI started up again. Went to my general practitioner this time, and she said that yes, it looked like yeast again (i.e. not like herpes or STDs - and I did have a blood test to confirm that there are no STDs). So I'm using another topical ointment, but it's not helping yet. I also tried a one day Monistat and it did nothing. What the hell? Has anyone else dealt with such a persistent yeast infection? I've lost some weight and really upped my exercise lately (running about eight miles a day), which has made my period a bit lighter. Plus, I've been drinking more caffeine and alcohol lately (not a lot of either, but more than I used to, which was almost none). I'm wondering if the yeast infections have to do with a slight hormonal imbalance plus the increased consumption of caffeine and booze?

I'm going to see my gyno tomorrow, and I'm guessing she's just gonna give me more Diflucan, which doesn't seem to really knock this entire infection out. So I'm thinking of trying boric acid capsules as suppositories. I bought boric acid on amazon and veggie gel caps and plan on making them tonight. Lots of people have written anecdotal advice on amazon about how to use boric acid, but I figured I'd turn to the experts here. Any advice on best practices in using boric acid capsules as suppositories to get rid of a yeast infection? I'd be really grateful for your insights!

Thank you very much in advance for the help!!!!
fallconsmate 11th-Mar-2015 11:37 pm (UTC)
one of the things that can set off a yeast overgrowth (YI) in me is too much sugar consumption. and alcohol *does* break down into sugars once it's metabolized. that may be part of the issue.

another thing (given that you do run) is making sure you get enough airflow in that area...changing out of damp clothing as soon as practical after exercise and all that. but congratulations on the exercise and improving your fitness level!

i went through a 3 month solid yeast overgrowth then recurring overgrowths for the next 3 years before i was diagnosed as diabetic. i'm not saying at *all* that you have those issues, but yes, i do know that specific pain.
patchworkorange 12th-Mar-2015 01:42 am (UTC)
Try the boric acid every night for 5-7 days. If you find it irritating, include some coconut oil.

It will probably come out in a watery gush the day after, and that's normal. You may even see some powder on your panties...but if this helps at all, I'd suggest 1-2 a wk for maintenance for the next couple mths after, and especially after your period.

Eventually, your own flora will be strong enough to ward off infection :) Good luck!
_angelbeauty 12th-Mar-2015 09:13 pm (UTC)
I know I'm not the OP but I have a question about boric acid. How much time should you wait to have sex after boric acid suppositories? And I'm assuming oral would be out of the question because wouldn't the vaginal discharge have boric acid and would be toxic, right? just curious :)
patchworkorange 12th-Mar-2015 09:58 pm (UTC)
It's generally cleaned out in a day or so...I still wouldn't allow oral for at least a couple days after :) Even though they say it's toxic, the small amount used in a capsule wouldn't kill a human. But it might taste nasty lol.
_angelbeauty 12th-Mar-2015 11:57 pm (UTC)
Ok thank for your response! I finally decided to try this Boric Acid today after months of vaginal issues. At first I was told I had BV in October and given metrogel, then given oral flagyl in November because it came back. Then in December Cleocin cream and then the wet mound came back saying I had Yeast not BV. So then I was given Diflucan. And now I still have it and given Diflucan again. Its been very frustrating because I feel like the diagnosed BV without a sample and I think the antibiotics just wrecked havoc (sorry for the rant lol).

I have another question about boric acid but idk if you would be able to answer. Can Boric acid effect hormonal birth control pills' effectiveness? and can the discharge have an effect on condoms?
patchworkorange 13th-Mar-2015 12:51 am (UTC)
Boy, those are very good questions! Since it's acidic...I'm not sure if it would compromise the latex of the condom?. Hormonal birth control, nah :) I think you're fine there.

The capsules are such a small quantity and I always felt that once I felt that watery gush...it was on it's way out of my body. It really doesn't take much to change the vaginal pH, either bad or good :) If you're treating an active infection, I would probably refrain from sex until done anyway, just on good infection-treating principle.

Imagine this roller coaster cycle you've gone through since October, for almost 4 yrs. That's what happens once you start trying to "treat" something that's a side effect of trying to treat something else...when it can be stopped by simply changing the vaginal pH and keeping her happy!
zeldakitty 12th-Mar-2015 05:26 am (UTC)
A dear friend of mine suffered for months with a fungal infection that would not go away. She tried repeated rounds of difulan w/no success. She did the boric acid thing and is a total convert. Wiped it out and it never came back.
patchworkorange 12th-Mar-2015 11:39 am (UTC)
This makes me SO happy to hear....it's just amazing. I was a chronic BV sufferer for close to 4 yrs, tried everything in the book. Boric acid came along and changed my life so I love hearing other successes!
acs80 12th-Mar-2015 02:44 pm (UTC)
Thank you both so much for these encouraging replies! I feel like I don't know what to do. I'm just coming home from my gynecologist and she says she suspected that yeast is probably to blame for my external symptoms, but then she also curiously said that the discharge didn't look like classic yeast, either. Further, she also said it didn't seem like an STD or herpes. So who knows what I'm dealing with? I asked her if she had ever used boric acid with patients before and she said that in extremely rare cases she and her colleagues have used it, but that she definitely wouldn't recommend it for me. And then she said something weird, like, "do you know that if somebody in your household eats boric acid, they'll DIE?" I don't know what that fear mongering was all about, but now she's got me terrified to use it.

She prescribed me two doses of Diflucan again, which, if last month was any indication, will mostly clear up the infection. But I'm wondering if this same cycle will start up again next month. I guess I'll take things day by day for right now and see what happens? This is frustrating! I don't usually have issues like this so I'm feeling pretty down. The timing could also not be worse because I'm starting a new relationship with a guy and as soon as we start talking about sex I'm going to feel awkward explaining all of this. Yuck!
patchworkorange 12th-Mar-2015 09:50 pm (UTC)
Did she test you for BV at all?

Boric acid kills roaches, yes. But you'd have to ingest a large quantity for it to anything to YOU. Roach size is much different that human size. And since you aren't ingesting it at all, it is perfectly safe. With the amount I used I should have been dead if using it vaginally was lethal at all :)

You do what you must....but keep boric acid in mind if the infection comes back.
acs80 12th-Mar-2015 10:40 pm (UTC)
Just saw this - yes, she tested me for BV. Came back negative.
acs80 12th-Mar-2015 03:30 pm (UTC)
Patchworkorange, one thing that concerns me (especially after visiting my doc today and having her scare me about boric acid): the container of boric acid I ordered has a warning on the side. It says if the skin is accidentally exposed to boric acid that it should immediately be flushed with water for at least 15 minutes, etc. Yikes! That sounds like dangerous stuff. Is it really safe to be used as a suppository? I understand that it shouldn't be ingested.

Did you make your own capsules when you used it?

Thank you!
patchworkorange 12th-Mar-2015 09:56 pm (UTC)
Yup, I went so far as to using a little machine to make 25 at a time :)

THIS is the exact boric acid I used....you want to the sort you can buy in the pharmacy, not the pest control section :)

Boric acid is sometimes used as an eye wash as well.

acs80 12th-Mar-2015 10:14 pm (UTC)
Great! Thanks for the link - that's the exact same one I ordered.

One last question - and thank you for hanging in there with me! - did you combine the boric acid with something like coconut oil or some other emulsifier, or just put the powder straight into the capsules?

I appreciate your kind advice!!!!
patchworkorange 13th-Mar-2015 12:52 am (UTC)
I did the straight powder in the capsules...never had any irritation or anything. But some say it can be drying and that's where a little coconut oil helps.
chaos_is_beauty 12th-Mar-2015 05:30 am (UTC)
This is probably not it, but just in case. I had an endless yeast infection that only went away during my period for many, many months. It turned out to be a symptom of out of control blood sugars, as I have type II diabetes. If you've never had an A1c test as part of your yearly physical, possibly check that. You have my empathy, either way.

Edited at 2015-03-12 05:31 am (UTC)
rara8777 12th-Mar-2015 05:07 pm (UTC)
It's not just anecdotal, webmd recommends it as a treatment as well. They just haven't done any official studies on it because it has very little monetary value. Why tell you about something cheap and super effective like boric acid when you can pay out the ass for diflucan or monistat?
acs80 12th-Mar-2015 06:22 pm (UTC)
No joke, rara. I think the same holds true for D-Mannose. I can't tell you how much $$ I've dropped over the past 6 weeks on anti-fungal creams, Diflucan, wipes, etc. Blah. And none of it has worked! I started another dose of Diflucan today (because it partially worked last time and some relief is better than none) but if it doesn't clear this bad boy up entirely I'm gonna give boric acid a shot. Thank you!
tigress35 13th-Mar-2015 06:44 am (UTC)
Man I'd love pre-packaged boric acid capsules. Maybe if I ever find myself with excess capital (not likely!) I'll start that business.
This page was loaded Sep 17th 2019, 1:25 pm GMT.