6:01 pm - 01/27/2008

Herpes? Yeast Infection? Help?

So, I've been a monogamous relationship for 1 year, and have been having sex for about 10 months of it. We've been having condomless sex (I am on HBC) for about 8 months. He is my first sexual partner.

Saturday, the 19th, I had condomless sex per usual. The next day I noticed I was fairly sore, and the day after (the 20th), I noticed it was painful to urinate. Upon inspection of my vag with a mirror, I noticed some tell-tale signs of a yeastie.. My entire vulva was a bit red, inflamed, and I had some cottage cheesy discharge. Throughout that day I started experiencing itching and burning on the vulva. Assuming I had a yeast infection, Tuesday night I started a round of Monistat 3 (a OTC yeast infection medication that you insert into your vag every night for three nights).

The last day of the Monistat, which was Thursday the 24th, I noticed that right above the entrance to my vagina was painful to the touch (it had NOT been painful to touch previous to Thursday). By Thursday/Friday, most, if not all, of the yeast infection symptoms were gone... Vulva was no longer red, and it was no longer itchy, but still occasionally painful when my urine hit my vulva, but not nearly as bad.

The pain immediately above my vaginal entrance has persisted (though I *think* is a little less than it was yesterday and the day before), and I had assumed this meant the yeast infection wasn't gone. But then I realized it wasn't itchy, or burny, and there was no longer any discharge, and every day have been inspecting the area with a mirror. The very sore spot is fairly deep underneath all the folds of my vagina (the red and itchy stuff had occurred allover my vulva, and not just here, and has since cleared), and I have to fish around to find it with a finger, let alone see it with the mirror. It LOOKS a bit red, but I honestly have never looked at this part of my vagina to know if it is redder than usual. It still hurts sometimes when urine hits it (though not nearly the wincing pain it was on Monday when I first noticed the yeast infection symptoms).

Anyway, I found the spot and for the past two or three days noticed nothing strange about it (though potentially red). Today though, it appears I have two very small sores (that I didn't see before). They are indeed fairly small, and are what is painful to touch (the rest of the surrounding area isn't painful, just the sores), but not itchy or burny... unless something is touching them I don't notice them and they are not sore. They are a little whitish. Until I found these spots, I had continued using a topical ointment that came with the Monistat 3 that is supposed to help relieve symptoms. I used a lot more than I think I should because the pain was irritating, and don't know if over-using it (it contained the same active ingredient to kill yeast as the stuff inserted into my vag) could potentially cause these sores or at least make them worse.

The sores don't look 100% like the pictures of genital herpes that I've seen online and are linked to on the vulvapedia, but I'm not going to rule out herpes.

I have never experienced anything like this before, and assumed it was a yeastie from particularly dry and rough sex two days before the symptoms occurred. I've never had any painful sores or blisters previous to this, or any other pain except for being sore after rough sex.

Does this sound like herpes to any of you? I'm a little freaked out right now, and obviously will be going to the doctor ASAP. But I'd like to know if anyone has experienced anything like this before, and if I should be as worried as I obviously am.
spiritualorchid 28th-Jan-2008 02:28 am (UTC)
Sounds like the little bumps are pimples to me. Or possibly ingrown hairs.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 02:31 am (UTC)
They are in a location where ingrown hairs are impossible. They are right above my vaginal entrance (I guess between my vagina and urethra) where no hair grows. I've never experienced pimples on the mucusy 'soft' part of my vulva/vagina before, only around where pubic hair grows.
spiritualorchid 28th-Jan-2008 02:38 am (UTC)
It's hard to say what the sores look like without being able to see them. The best thing would be to have a doctor examine the area, as you've already mentioned in your post. Best wishes. :)
pinkhusky 28th-Jan-2008 02:40 am (UTC)
I have experienced a pimple there once. I'd guess that's probably what it is :] But to ease your mind, you might want to get checked out just in case? Has your boyfriend been tested for STDs or anything? It might be good for the two of you to get checked, even if you rule out herpes.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 02:57 am (UTC)
Upon further inspection, they don't look a thing like pimples. They are flat... But also, they seem much less painful right now than they were. I have a feeling they might have been there since I was experiencing the pain and just never noticed, since they aren't easy to see. The color isn't really white, they are a similar color to the surrounding skin, just a little lighter, as if it's that color + a little white, if that makes sense.
pinkhusky 28th-Jan-2008 03:23 am (UTC)
I don't know a lot about herpes, so I'm sorry that I can't help you out very much =[ I'd say get checked out just to ease your mind. It doesn't SOUND like herpes to me, but I'm no where near an expert.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 02:42 am (UTC)
I could see how that would work. Especially since it's RIGHT above the entrance above my vag (basically, if it makes sense, the sore is on the top 'edge' of my vagina), where the Monistat would easily sit on.

Thanks. :)
earthstone 28th-Jan-2008 03:06 am (UTC)
do they look similar to a canker sore (mouth ulcer)? because thats what my herpes always looks like. small, and only hurts when something touches it. my first outbreak ever was accompanied by a yeast infection, which was not pleasant. go to a doctor and see what they say.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 03:25 am (UTC)
Hmm, thank you. It looks somewhat similar to a canker sore.

I'm a little freaked out, and don't really know what to do if this IS herpes. Do you have any advice? Obviously I'll need to tell my SO if this is the case, but honestly, I don't really like the idea of having to break it to him that... he gave me herpes.
earthstone 28th-Jan-2008 03:43 am (UTC)
first, breathe. its not the end of the world (if you do have it). you can still have a healthy and fun sexual relationship with your boyfriend, or anyone for that matter. second, maybe you could say "hey [name], i have this sore on my private parts. it might not be anything to worry about, but if it is, maybe you should get checked out." is there a possiblity that he has cold sores? because if so, he could have passed the herpes to you by oral sex (thats how i got it. fyi, he did not have a cold sore at the time).
its good that your worried about it because many people go a long time without getting things checked out. if it IS herpes, a doctor can tell you what kind it is and a rough estimate as to how many break out a year...etc.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 03:55 am (UTC)
Thank you. :) He did have a cold sore once while during our relationship, but it was months and months ago, and he didn't go down on me at the time (though obviously the virus can shed without a cold sore being there!)

If this is as bad as it gets, I'm honestly not too afraid of my own discomfort. This is a pain I can definitely live with.

Do you find that your sores crust over? These sores appear to be growing fainter (I found them this morning when I awoke and they were much 'whiter', now they almost blend in with the surrounding skin and are much less painful), but without any crusting over. Any advice on what to do if they go away before I can get to a doctor?

Thank you, by the way! Your comment has definitely made me feel much better.
earthstone 28th-Jan-2008 04:06 am (UTC)
no problem! i completely understand.

even if the sore isnt present, the doctor can still test you to check if you do in fact carry the virus.

now about crusting over: i think it depends on how wet your vagina is. sometimes i have had a drier sore, like its developing a light scab, but usually my vagina is pretty lubricated, so a scab doesnt form. my boyfriend on the other hand DOES have them "crust over". pretty much like i said before, a light scab. but usually it falls off, or gets re-hydrated in the shower. HIS sores never look white though (mine are usually slightly white), they just look like flesh colored canker like sores.

tenna 28th-Jan-2008 04:12 am (UTC)
I can go to a regular doctor for testing, right? Just say I am concerned about having herpes and would like a blood test? Sounds simple! Thanks. :)
kelpgarden 28th-Jan-2008 08:33 am (UTC)
If it was herpes it would be so uncomfortable you would have trouble walking or sitting. Urinating would be so painful you would cry. Trust me, I know. It does not sound like herpes. You should go to the doctor to find out what it is though.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 08:51 am (UTC)
Okay. Thanks. :) That does make me feel a bit better. I think it may be a reaction to my overuse of Monistat, since now I've stopped using the topical cream and it feels SO much better (I was using a lot more than it says you are supposed to, because my vag was so itchy and irritated from the yeastie). And I was inspecting the area every day of my yeastie with a handheld mirror, and the sores only just showed up last night/this morning, and are now harder to see than they were... hopefully it's nothing bad! Thanks again.
crw008 28th-Jan-2008 10:05 am (UTC)
I'm not a doctor, so I can't say for certain, but...

I'm 99% positive what you have are little cuts caused by your YI. I ALWAYS get paper-cut looking cuts on my labia when I have a YI. Sometimes, if they crack open a little, they can look a little like a canker sore. If they're long and narrow, assume they're YI accompanied cuts. If they're more round, that might be a reason to get checked out. However, I really think this is what it is. YI's are VERY drying, especially when treated with creams.
tenna 28th-Jan-2008 11:15 am (UTC)
This does make sense, especially since the pain didn't start til a few days after the yeast infection symptoms started, and a few days after I started with the creams. And after continuing to look more closely at them, and pictures of herpes online, they really don't look much like herpes at all (and don't feel anywhere near as painful as I would expect herpes to feel, and now that I think about it, DO feel similar to cuts I've gotten previously around my vag).

In your experience, how long do these little cuts take to heal? If they haven't improved by the morning, I'll definitely see a doctor JIC, but I'd hate to go to a doctor and waste money just for them to say "nope, just cuts, thanks!"

They do look like very small, very mild, canker sores... but not quite like the canker-looking sores caused by herpes (I'm having a hard time explaining the difference). These are almost impossible to see without really close inspection. When I went to look at them just a couple minutes ago, I almost couldn't find them, haha.

b_n_n Did you ever see a doctor?3rd-Sep-2008 05:26 am (UTC)
I have had a VERY similar experience though I had a yeast infection I never treated it because mine typically go away on their own. However about a month and a half ago, after a YI, I found some sores they were small and hard and very painful to the touch. They haven't gone away though the pain has lessened and they haven't changed in size or form. If you did go to the doctor all your information would be the weight of the world off my shoulders regardless of the nature.
krystinephantom 11th-Sep-2009 05:04 pm (UTC)
I'm going through the exact same thing right now. I had a yeast infection that I didn't really notice, then used canesten... It didn't really help so I went to the clinic and the doc said it's a yeast infection... Gave me a scrip. But there are now tiny white bumps that like yours, kind of look like herpes and my vulva definitely burns etc when I urinate... So I freaked and started googling herpes... But then I calmed down and googled pictures of outward symptoms of bad yeast infections and a lot of those pictures look a lot more like what I have. I got tested anyway for herpes & other stds and I can find out Tuesday but! Now at least I'm not losing my mind worrying about herpes and the chance that I infected my new and wonderful partner.
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