12:26 am - 09/22/2005

Sex in the bath tub bad for you?

So, even though I should have been doing my homework, I checked the archives. A former boyfriend once told me that sex in the bath tub can be seriously harmful to women. I read about some of the swimming problems and problems with clorinated water. I also have a friend who says she had the worst experience of her life engaging in "salt water sex."

I feel like I remember him talking about an air bubble getting in and traveling around your reproductive system, but this might have been my girlish imagination. In an archived entry, "How Does Masturbation/Sex in the Shower Work?" someone mentions that pointing a shower head right up into you is bad for you (like douching--can throw off the PH balance). Is that what my friend might have meant, that having sex in the tub increasing the possibility that water could get up there and throw off your PH balance (increased as related to just sitting in the tub).

It seems to me that the the chances for injury are about increased chance of getting water up there (the pumping or whatever)OR about what's in the water: salt, chlorine, bubble bath or soap. But does anyone know of something else? Could it be an air bubble? If I'm taking bubble baths in certain soaps without problems, am I more likely to have problems from having sex in that same bubble bath? I suppose soup could dry one out...

And, as a note, I was trying this with my current boyfriend until I remembered this. It actually felt really great. I didn't feel any drier and it was a lot easier for me to relax (which I have problems with sometimes).

Thoughts? Tidbits of knowelge?

Thanks for any help!
aechei 22nd-Sep-2005 05:02 am (UTC)
perfectly safe as long as it is just water, not soapy. although a little olive oil in the water wouldnt kill you, and might make your skin feel nice. there is the risk of it throwing off your ph, but if you arent prone to yeast or infections, i wouldnt worry. usually the problem with water sex is a lack of lube.

the air bubble thing is a theoretical danger, but would require pressurized air blown into your vag. sex just would not do it.
jasminekitty 22nd-Sep-2005 05:10 am (UTC)
I might say I'm prone to yeast infections, but there's no correlation I can find with taking bubble baths. The only product-related correlation I think I've stumbled upon is the time I used anti-bacterial soap. I can't remember what posessed me to do that...

Anway, thanks so much for the comment--especially the olive oil idea.
mammothali 22nd-Sep-2005 05:07 am (UTC)
The air bubble isn't as concerning to me as the idea of water being pushed into your uterus. That can be very dangerous, as you can push it up but there's really no way you can push it out. So whatever is in that water will be sitting in your uterus, stagnant, and that could definitely be dangerous. Sex in the shower wouldn't be as dangerous, of course, this would apply more for in the tub or pool/jacuzzi.
jasminekitty yikes...22nd-Sep-2005 05:11 am (UTC)
What about the idea of "bearing down" it was mentioned in an archived entry about swimming. Would that get water out?
mammothali Re: yikes...22nd-Sep-2005 05:20 am (UTC)
I'm not an expert, I never claimed to be :)

I am just applying logic. Here's my logic stream of thought... Does "bearing down" make the blood in your uterus come out quicker? No, it just kinda leaks at its own pace. You can squeeze stuff out of your vaginal canal, like semen and divacups, but again, that's in your canal and not your uterus. I can really see how being underwater and having that water being pushed forcefully by the penis into your vagina, and therefore up into your uterus. And that really scares me. I really am not claiming expertise here, I would do more research for you but I have to study now! Hopefully someone who knows a lot about this will comment for your post. Good luck!
moochar Re: yikes...22nd-Sep-2005 05:55 am (UTC)
I don't like to butt in, but maybe quicker wasn't the right word to use. More like make it END quicker. While more blood may come out when you are doing it, pushing doesn't actually force everything out & make your period end sooner. I think thats how shes trying to compare the pushing water out. It may get some out, but not all.
mammothali Re: yikes...22nd-Sep-2005 05:55 am (UTC)
Pushing will make it come out of your vagina, not your uterus. I mean you couldn't sit bearing down all day and have your period finish sooner!
atrophie Re: yikes...22nd-Sep-2005 06:29 pm (UTC)
haha that would be awesome
aechei 22nd-Sep-2005 02:37 pm (UTC)
i think it would be quite hard to force any water into your uterus, barring recent births and possibly during your period. there isnt a gaping hole up there....

also, what do you think happens to the sperm that make it up in there? do you think that they leak out on their own, or do they die and disintegrate in there? either way, if the sperm do it, i cant see the harm of water doing it.
biomechanic 22nd-Sep-2005 11:15 pm (UTC)
some of them leak out and yes, they do die and disintegrate in there--actually, they get absorbed by your body. from what i learned in my human sexuality class, a bunch of little spermies can swim out your fallopian tubes and swim around in your abdominal cavity. they just die and get absorbed, though...not harmful. eggs can get outside the uterus too...and that's when ectopic pregnancies happen (rare).
aechei 22nd-Sep-2005 11:51 pm (UTC)
yeah, thats what i thought (on the sperm) and i knew that (about ectopics). but my point stands. if it is ok for sperm to do it, it shouldnt be harmful for plain water to do it.
sunshinesarah 22nd-Sep-2005 05:08 am (UTC)
If the water is too hot, I guess it could dry you out. I don't know, though. I'm probably just ignorant. :)
sadistic_crayon 22nd-Sep-2005 05:10 am (UTC)
I suppose soup could dry one out...

soup? Kinky! hehe sorry couldn't help myself.
stilettodsista 22nd-Sep-2005 05:10 am (UTC)
a friend once had sex in a spa and was hospitalised for 2 weeks with the vag infection from hell! very nasty! our little vag's are so delicate are they not.
jasminekitty yikes again22nd-Sep-2005 05:14 am (UTC)
Did the doctors say what exactly caused it? Did water get up there and stay stagnant? Was the spa chlorinated? What kind of infection was it, do you know?
aechei 22nd-Sep-2005 02:38 pm (UTC)
yeah, thats a spa. chlorine, heat, and lots of other people's feet.

and actually, vaginas are very tough organs. we squeeze babies through them.
atrophie 22nd-Sep-2005 06:31 pm (UTC)
they're physically tough but think about how easy it is for STD pathogens to get us. same deal when it comes to chemical molecules and bacteria/viruses from spas.
dollunderglass 22nd-Sep-2005 05:36 am (UTC)
Water could get pushed into your uterus and then get into your fallopian (sp) tubes. Bad times.

A good alternative is to turn the shower on and have sex lying down in the bathtub. Or kneeling in the bathtub. Standing up, even. Heh.
robynchick 22nd-Sep-2005 05:57 am (UTC)
Not underwater: The two risks are water in your uterus and somehow creating a seal so that air gets into your bloodstream.
jasminekitty 22nd-Sep-2005 06:07 am (UTC)
so, since I was thinking about air traveling around my reproductive system, maybe I mixed the two risks: water in your uterus and fallopian tubes and this seal that could get air in your bloodstream.

By "not underwater" I asume you mean sex is not safe underwater, not, I don't know, that being underwater is an exception to something someone else said in their comment?

Operating under the assumption that that is what you meant, it's really too bad. The bath water really relaxes me in a way I haven't been able relax lately. When we tried it breifly, it felt better (easier to get it in) than sex has in a while (maybe just because of the relaxation?). It's also really psychologically rlaxing as I've had some real body image problems lately and I like feeling "blocked" from sight by the water :/

Thanks, though, everyone, for your takes on this.
robynchick 22nd-Sep-2005 07:02 am (UTC)
how about this:
rather than allowing the bath water into you, either don't fill it as much or use some towels (yes they'll absorb the water ;) ) on the bottom of the tub under you to prop the important parts just out of reach of the water.

Even more fun, turn the shower on and stay in the bath.
robynchick 22nd-Sep-2005 07:04 am (UTC)
Hey looks like I might have been incorrect I found a source that OK'd it:

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/sexandrelationships/sex/201044.html
kokoronagomu 22nd-Sep-2005 06:32 am (UTC)
the risk of enough water getting past your cervix to cause significant damage is very low.
the risk of enough air getting past your cervix, to cause significant damage is very low.
soap will clean out or kill too many of the beneficial bacteria, soap is usually alkaline (high pH) your body is acidic (low pH), soap will also mess with your pH balance.
if you take a bubble bath you should make sure you rinse well because soap is not good for the skin unless it is acidic, like 4.5pH.
storychick 22nd-Sep-2005 06:45 am (UTC)
The air bubble is called an air embolism. Never heard of it being a worry about bathtub sex, but you should not let your partner blow air into your vagina, especially while pregnant.

http://www.thedoctorslounge.net/cardiology/forums/backup/topic-2627.html

I also can't imagine water getting into the uterus and not being able to get back out... clearly gravity would work, here, and if it could get it it could get out. Water in the uterus is highly unlikely anyway, and if it is it safe to birth underwater, when your uterus is not only wide open but very vulnerable to infection and the like, that sex is just fine. I've never heard otherwise. Soap could definitely dry one out or cause irritation, though.
storychick 22nd-Sep-2005 06:46 am (UTC)
That is: if it could get in, it could get out.
aechei 22nd-Sep-2005 02:40 pm (UTC)
oooh, good point on the water births. i hadnt thought of that. but i have never heard a scientific source that states that water in the vag is dangerous. or for that matter, that air in the vag is dangerous unless it is blown in with a fair amount of force.
amazonelf78 22nd-Sep-2005 09:09 am (UTC)
wouldn't it be safer just to have sex in the shower? the water runs over you so you should be ok right?
catlin 22nd-Sep-2005 02:44 pm (UTC)
For my two cents, I just find that sex in water dries out places I want really wet and slippery. The bath steals all the natural lube from me.
minipeds 23rd-Sep-2005 06:15 am (UTC)
ditto
benthicblue 22nd-Sep-2005 03:15 pm (UTC)
I'd say that as long as it's just straight water you should be fine. As far as water going stagnant in your uterus, uh, I find that highly doubtful.

First off, if it could get past your cervix --which depending on where you are in your cycle and how open your cervix happens to be is a possibility -- it wouldn't just hang out there indefinitely. Your body would absorb it and provided it wasn't filled with foreign bacteria, soaps, cholorine or other ickies, I'd think you'd be just fine.

Secondly, women douche. Don't get me wrong, I'm not recommending the practice, but it's not like liquid in the vagina is a completely foreign concept. I'd also think that a douche would have a hell of a lot better chance of actually making it into your uterus than just having sex in the bathtub.
sofiaviolet 23rd-Sep-2005 01:08 am (UTC)
And if your cervix is open enough for water to get in there, it's probably open enough for most of that water to get back out again.
babity 22nd-Sep-2005 04:09 pm (UTC)
All I know is I can't have water sex. We have a bit of a size issue, and need all the lube we can get. Every time we have tried bathtub, pool, or shower sex it has resulted in some serious pain, and once a small tear. That could be what he was talking about?
jasminekitty I know it's been a couple of days, so this may not get found...26th-Sep-2005 01:41 am (UTC)
That is so weird. Actually, that (and everything else people are saying about the natural lube being washed away) makes sense and I guess my experience is weird.

My boyfriend and I have a size issue, too. When we tried in a big jacuzzi bath tub (private--no chlorine or weird peoples' feet) it felt so much easier. We didn't do it for too long, because I remembered what my ex had told me and got spooked. Maybe if we had done it for longer, then we would've felt de-slippified.

And I'm sure he wasn't talking about tearing, because I had experienced that before so it wouldn't have been a big mystery to me.

Incidently, if you do check up on this, do have size issue wisdom you could pass on? Other than lube, and really easing into it...
babity Re: I know it's been a couple of days, so this may not get found...26th-Sep-2005 12:09 pm (UTC)
LOL No wisdom other then that, sorry! We have been "doing it" for almost 4 years now, and still it can be an issue, in time it just becomes part of the routine, but yes, lube and always taking your time (at least at first) helps A LOT.
sofiaviolet 23rd-Sep-2005 01:05 am (UTC)
The only thing I can think of is water, especially soapy water, messing with the vagina's natural chemistry.

My boyfriend and I tried to have sex in his pool once, but my vagina was so dry he couldn't get it in.
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