4:03 pm - 07/28/2004

I learned something new about hymens.

Honestly..I feel as if I've been fed lies all my life. Grr. But of course even though this sounds more pleasant is it true?

"Almost all infant girls are born with an open hymen, which remains open throughout their lives. In fact only a VERY FEW female infants are born with an "intact" hymen, that is, the hymen actually covers the vaginal opening. But even in these cases, the hymen generally opens on its own before puberty. This is the source of many myths about virginity, and about how the penis must "break" the hymen of a virgin.

Fortunately, the intact hymen is extremely rare by the time a girl reaches puberty, and is considered an abnormality because it will not allow a normal menses. At menarche (when periods begin), menstrual fluid backs up behind the intact hymen and cannot flow out. This condition is very uncomfortable and requires a minor surgical procedure to open the hymen. So if you have normal menstrual flow, you have a normal, open, hymen."

~Taken from the Instead Softcup website that I was surfing after just discovering about the softcup.

So how true is it? Cause if it is..then why do docters and all still wonder about the hymen? It's supposed to simply be open. Ugh..and all that being broken crap.
shes_unreal 28th-Jul-2004 01:06 pm (UTC)
Well just because the hymen doesn't close off the entire vagania doesn't mean it isn't there. There can be an opening for menstrual blood to come through, but there still be a hymen to be "broken" when a girl has sex for the first time. It's true though nowadays that the hymen is often broken in childhood through other things, and also having a hymen isn't the only reason someone might bleed a little from sex.
dindin 28th-Jul-2004 01:16 pm (UTC)
::nods:: Just what I was thinking.
shes_unreal 28th-Jul-2004 01:30 pm (UTC)
I read this site once where it was talking about a lot of girls' hymens get broken because they ride bikes. o_o
dindin 28th-Jul-2004 01:36 pm (UTC)
If you think about it, it's just this thin little piece of tissue. Almost any activity would break it.
inconvenience 28th-Jul-2004 02:25 pm (UTC)
Sure why not? Thats how I prolly lost mine.
Also, I'm sure more than a hymen underwent damage from bike riding. Before they invented the specific women's bike seats it could get bad.
shes_unreal 28th-Jul-2004 05:05 pm (UTC)
I think my bike just has a "unisex" bike seat and not only are the roads bad in my city, the sidewalks are worse. I ought to get one of those womens' seats.
cailin_t 28th-Jul-2004 01:07 pm (UTC)
it's true. my good friend had to have a hymenectomy to allow her to have her period. and "open" hymen just means it has an opening of any size. an initial sexual encounter completely breaks open the hymen, which can cause bleeding if you haven't opened it totally prior by vigorous exercising like horseback-riding, etc.
inconvenience 28th-Jul-2004 01:17 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard of those. I was reading Jane and the article was called "I lost my virginity to my doctor!" and I was like..whaaa? But yeh..it's eeh.

Oh yeah. The horses prolly did it for me. ^_^
cailin_t 28th-Jul-2004 01:19 pm (UTC)
me too. ;)
indigo_forest 28th-Jul-2004 01:24 pm (UTC)
actually, penis-in-vagina sex doesn't necessary break the hymen either. depending on the woman's natural size and the size of the penis, that encounter may stretch the hymen out but not break it. it's possible to have sex regularly and still have a hymen that is simply stretched out.
rainwen 28th-Jul-2004 01:47 pm (UTC)
Yep, mine's not broken, just stretched.
rainbow_goth 28th-Jul-2004 02:05 pm (UTC)
mine too!
deadpoet83 28th-Jul-2004 03:05 pm (UTC)
Yep, mine was really stretched from gymnastics and I had three months where I was pretty much having sex daily before it broke...it was a pretty big surprise, because after the first couple times, I just assumed I didn't have one.
rainbow_goth 28th-Jul-2004 02:08 pm (UTC)
i bet their mothers knew and pushed a finger in there or something. ;)
inconvenience 28th-Jul-2004 02:23 pm (UTC)
Or probably at that time the girls were married before or as soon as they got their periods and well..It wasn't a mother's finger that did the pushing.
rainbow_goth 28th-Jul-2004 02:27 pm (UTC)
lol true. ugh.
inconvenience 28th-Jul-2004 02:55 pm (UTC)
Despite how barbaric we deem these rituals..they tend to have an underline of practicality involved.
vaginawhore 24th-Nov-2005 01:55 am (UTC)
Have you read the red tent? in it they expained how when a girl first got her period they 'blessed' her birth canal with an idol of a god (this was in biblical times, with joseph and his 11 brothers and stuff), and the purpose was to 'completely open a birth canal and let her life blood flow' or something like that, so i'm sure they knew about hymins.

I thoguht that was interesting
ahemait 28th-Jul-2004 02:23 pm (UTC)
Totally random... but I LOVE YOUR ICON. Do you have a link to the full size image?
ahemait 28th-Jul-2004 09:53 pm (UTC)
That is so awesome. THANK YOU!

I want to make a wallpaper out of it...
inconvenience 29th-Jul-2004 05:16 am (UTC)
Of course. Everyone might be different..but we are all beautiful ('cause we got waaaaaaatcchhhheeeeeesss)

Anywho. Despite how learned I thought I was I didn't know about the small hole(s) in the hymen. I knew about stretching and operations, sure.

I just didn't know that it's -supposed- to have a hole in it.

I'm sure some people read this and were enriched also. I know I posted this in my journal and a bunch of my female friends were like "What what!" and I'm like..yeeaah..

I'm sorry I'm strange..I just woke up. ^_^
miss_cho 29th-Jul-2004 04:28 am (UTC)
See, and yesterday when I asked that question I was told I was ignorant.
inconvenience 29th-Jul-2004 05:13 am (UTC)
You asked this question?

miss_cho 29th-Jul-2004 05:14 am (UTC)
Another user was talking about the hymen stretching it sometimes still being intact even after sex. I queried this and another user told me that if I didn't know that the hymen breaks during sex then I'm too ignorant to be having any.
inconvenience 29th-Jul-2004 05:20 am (UTC)
Well, that question is different from mine. I was talking about a hymen having holes before naturally before any penetration.

Well, even beyond that point whoever said that to you was very out line for this community. I don't think anyone should ever ever call anyone ignorant because it's mean and discourages people from asking questions. God only knows how much ignorance fcked up the world. As far as ignorance go, someone may think it in their mind but they must be polite and do their best to educate that person, not beat them with their error.

So please don't be discouraged to ask questions, no matter how foolish you believe they are. Information is key for us women, or for anyone.

Forget about her. She was ignorant too! The hymen, as we know, doesn't always break during sex. So :P! To her. She's a meanie-butt..
miss_cho 29th-Jul-2004 05:22 am (UTC)
Thank you. I don't feel stupid or ignorant. I like this community, people ask great questions and other people awnser them with respect and without judgement. It's a great place.
inconvenience 29th-Jul-2004 05:25 am (UTC)
Your welcome. It's just too often I see people turn into themselves because someone made fun of their question..and then they stop asking. And it sucks ass.

To be blunt.

I like this community a lot. It's very very helpful..and despite that no one really knows one another, it's very nurtering.
I mean, we all have one important bonding factor.
thevargasgirl 29th-Jul-2004 06:44 am (UTC)
did you ask that question here??
if that happens again, report it. this is a safe space and you should NEVER be treated that way. not all hymens break with sex, and yes they can be stretched.
miss_cho 29th-Jul-2004 06:48 am (UTC)
I commented in another user's question. It's no big deal and she apologised, it just pissed me off at the time.
inconvenience 29th-Jul-2004 09:21 am (UTC)
Oo! I found mine! I gots that septate one. Yeeah. I thought it was my hymen.
I can actually pull that piece in the middle like an inch outta my vagina. It's gotten really stretched out..but it ain't broken. The worst is when it gets caught on my tampons..ugh! Very painful.

Would be very expensive to get that thing cut and out?

Also, thank you for posting these pictures. Very informative!

You should post these pics up as their own post!
jsilver20 29th-Jul-2004 09:30 pm (UTC)
question.. how far up is the hymen, inchwise?
jsilver20 30th-Jul-2004 08:48 pm (UTC)
ohh.. i was one of those people who were under the impression that the hymen was higher up.. now i know thanks!
pixelchild Hymen buddies!!13th-Nov-2008 07:53 am (UTC)
I had a septate hymen! It took like 3 months of sex before it actually broke and when it did, it made a popping noise. My boyfriend and I just burst out laughing XD

Now I have VAGINA TENTACLES. Woe is me. But the boyfriend doesnt mind at all so I'm happy enough its finally broken. At least tampons will be easier now.
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