7:21 pm - 09/09/2009

How much does your clitoris stick out when aroused?

How much does your clitoris stick out when aroused?  I am noticing mines swell up so much that it really sticks out of the labia.  In recent weeks with news regarding Lady Gaga being a hermaphodite, I am wondering the possibility of this being me as well.  With stick out, I don't mean it pointing out like a tiny tiny penis, but the clit part just swells up big.  I'm not even sure how to describe it.
tornattheelbo 9th-Sep-2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
mine is fairly large when aroused, and it's totally like a small dick. Works similarily stimulation-wise. I love it, I think it's great.
tornattheelbo 9th-Sep-2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
er, and it doesn't mean that you're a hermaphrodite either. Mine is due to hormonal issues, i think... could be something you might want to look into.
melodic_lyrics 9th-Sep-2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
Mine personally doesn't stick out very much, but what you describe definitely sounds in the realm of "average" or "normal" for clitorises (clitorii?) that are aroused.

I don't have any good resources for intersex genitalia pictures online to provide you, much of what I can find on google images are of infants who have been clinically diagnosed as intersex.
oopsiedaisies7 10th-Sep-2009 02:39 am (UTC)
Clitorises (or clitorides). Pluralizing something with -i only goes for words of Latin origin that end in -us. =)
petite_mewsette 9th-Sep-2009 11:39 pm (UTC)
I agree that this sounds normal. My clitoris swells a fair amount when I'm aroused. It might or might not help you to remember that the clitoris is kind of analogous to a male penis, so it's normal for it to swell and become 'erect' when you're aroused. :)
odalisque 9th-Sep-2009 11:49 pm (UTC)
Mine swells quite a bit, to the point it is not hidden by my outer labia anymore. I'm pretty sure I'm not a hermaphrodite. :)
roxotaku 9th-Sep-2009 11:50 pm (UTC)
There is a form of hermaphroditism called CAH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenital_adrenal_hyperplasia

My best friend had it, and her parents never told her. I diagnosed her, because congenital defects are something I was interested in at one time. She did not have a clitoris at all, because as a child it looked like a penis and they chopped it off. <.>

But, I am sure you don't have CAH. Clits come in all shapes and sizes, and I am sure you are fine! :D
paraxeni 10th-Sep-2009 12:11 am (UTC)
CAH is actually an intersexual condition. 'Hermaphrodite' means an animal or system with two full sets of reproductive organs, and is no longer used to describe intersexed humans. as it's a stigmatising and misleading term.

There's more info available at http://www.isna.org/faq/hermaphrodite
roxotaku 10th-Sep-2009 12:14 am (UTC)
Most people who used to be called hermaphrodites call themselves intersexed, as far as my research went. True hermaphrodites are rare, but it was a blanket term used before intersexed was coined. They did surgery on my friend to see if she had testes - she didn't. CAH is hormonal.....
paraxeni 10th-Sep-2009 12:26 am (UTC)
OK, I'll try and make it clearer for you.

You said "There is a form of hermaphroditism called CAH".

'Hermaphroditism' is an offensive term, it is not used to refer to humans, even the rare pseudohermaphrodites that do exist, because it's incorrect. Its like calling someone with cerebral palsy a 'spastic' or someone with Downs Syndrome a 'mongoloid'. Yes, those terms were common parlance at one time, but now they've rightfully been consigned to the dustbin.

I am already aware, thank you, that CAH is a genetic hormonal condition, all I was correcting was your statement that it is a 'form of hermaphroditism' because a) the correct erm is 'intersexual condition', and b) only a small percentage of people with CAH could be referred to as intersexed, it's not a given.
roxotaku 10th-Sep-2009 12:29 am (UTC)
No offense meant! I took a class in college and a book I read for it was called, "Diary of a 19th Century Hermaphrodite." I am aware that this term is not politically correct anymore, but old habits die hard...and I am OLD! LOL!
__recidivist 10th-Sep-2009 07:13 am (UTC)
All the same, the people you're talking about generally find "hermaphrodite" an offensive term these days as it is at once inaccurate and harkens to some sort of side show freak status. For that reason, I think it's important to make an effort to use the term "intersex," which is now the term most often used by intersexual people in North America and the UK.

Incidentally, OP, there's no reason to believe that Lady Gaga is intersex. See here for more information.
drownophelia 10th-Sep-2009 03:19 pm (UTC)
that's the same reasoning my grandfather uses when he calls black people the n word.
jaggednib 10th-Sep-2009 12:22 am (UTC)
I will never understand parents like this... why make the choice for your child when they are too young yet to discover which sex they are!?! And not to tell!?!?!?!?!
As a parent myself, I could NEVER imagine condoning a surgery of my child's genitals and picking which gender they will be. I would wait until they are old enough to discern which sex they feel they are and they can then make the decision themselves.
Was your friend ever able to achieve orgasms? Seriously, she had NO clit? That makes me cry on the inside.

As for the OP's question, I have been told I have a micro-clit and it's very hard to find. It's small, and even when I'm aroused, it doesn't get much bigger. (Probably the reason I have had the inability to orgasm until just recently.)
thisandthat 10th-Sep-2009 01:35 am (UTC)
I think it is easy to say that you could never imagine doing that as a parent, but until you are in that situation you can't really understand what those parents must have to go through. Imagine carrying a child for 9 months, planning for that child's arrival, possibly finding out the child's gender and naming the child, planning for the child's future, only to discover that the child is not as you thought it was. I would imagine it is a similar experience for parents who have a pretty typical pregnancy only to discover upon birth that there is something abnormal about their child.

Also, how would you propose someone raise a child genderless until they are "old enough?" I've read of one couple doing it in Sweden (I believe this is the right country), but it really isn't easy, or even healthy for the child nessecarily. I know that the twin study by John Money has led to a lot of uneasiness about assigning the wrong gender to an intersexed child at birth, but it doesn't seem there is a really great alternative. Though I do believe 100% that once the child is of age of understanding the situation that they should be told the truth about their body.
fremescence 10th-Sep-2009 02:11 am (UTC)
I don't know that you can raise a child in a totally genderless environment, but I sure wouldn't be cutting anything off of my kid until ze was old enough to understand and make a choice.

Thank you for your comment, however. I just took a women's studies class and we--of course--lambasted all the parents who choose their children's genders. But I never really put any thought into it. Imagine having a child with ambiguous genitalia. All the other mothers are enrolling their kids in ballet and soccer and gymnastics and whatever. Even if you do pick a gender-neutral sport, the teams are usually separated by sex. I think this is a much more difficult question than I ever thought. I still feel that I wouldn't make any permanent, surgical decisions, but it would be very difficult. I can see why some parents, living in a less accepting world, would feel that they were doing the right thing. And they should not be lambasted for that.
thisandthat 10th-Sep-2009 02:55 am (UTC)
http://www.queerty.com/swedish-couple-refuse-to-mark-m-or-f-box-for-gender-less-offspring-20090702/

There is one of the articles about the couple in Sweden. I searched "genderless child sweden" and came up with a bunch. It is kind of interesting, but you have to wonder at what cost. It seems like the parents are doing it less for the child's benefit and more for, well I don't know.

I also agree in not cutting things off until the child can make that choice, same goes for circumcision in my mind. There are long term consequences to these surgeries. It kind of seems that it would make sense to leave the genetalia as it is (assuming that no other bodily functions are impaired), choose a gender, then when the child is old enough to realize "my wee-wee doesn't look like daddies" etc. start having age-appropriate discussions about what that means.

I am a Women's Studies major, and I know exactly what you are talking about. It is easy to critique and analyze the heck out of these situations. I find myself trying to understand the situation from the inside, rather than the outside. Women's Studies is so focused on getting one to think critically about these issues, but that often leaves me frustrated and without a real understanding of what it must be like and what day to day life looks like as ____ (an intersexed person, a person with a child with a disability, an African American woman constantly bombarded with images and ideas of what is beautiful, a family living in poverty trying to make ends meet, etc.)

I'm glad that my comment resonated with you. These are the kind of thoughts that are constantly coursing through my brain. :)
cadetsandkings 10th-Sep-2009 03:56 pm (UTC)
I kind of feel like this is a pretty judgmental statement to make in VP. There could be either parents or children here who have experienced this, and made the opposite decision advocated in this comment.
hannastar 10th-Sep-2009 07:14 pm (UTC)
I had a Gender Studies tutor last year who'd studied medical responses to intersex (or apparently intersex) infants and apparently it's quite common for hospitals to perform operations on the babies without bothering to get parental consent; or persuade parents to consent by describing the procedure as medically necessary, or implying that the operation is much more minor than it actually is. Horrible stuff.
kimie_catclaw 9th-Sep-2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
My clitoris and labia get all sorts of swollen and puffy. It's pretty cool.

And actually, Lady Gaga is not a hermaphrodite; that's just a rumor. XD
paperispatient 10th-Sep-2009 01:38 am (UTC)
Yeah, my whole vulva puffs up. I haven't noticed my clitoris specifically getting bigger, but my inner labia swell like crazy.
paraxeni 10th-Sep-2009 12:03 am (UTC)
The clitoris is made of erectile tissue, like the penis. It is designed to become erect from stimulation, it's perfectly normal, and you're probably not intersexed.
zombossified 10th-Sep-2009 12:28 am (UTC)
My clitoris gets swollen--the more turned on I am/sex I've been having, the more swollen it gets. It does stick out a little past my labia, too, sometimes.

I am definitely not intersexed, either :P
bladesmistress 10th-Sep-2009 01:03 am (UTC)
I agree with the others - it's pretty normal given the type of tissue involved and they come in all shapes and sizes. There are some conditions where women have quite large clitori, including PCOS. My sister has PCOS and while she does have an enlarged clit (she has told me this while discussing PCOS symptoms), she certainly doesn't have any problems with it. :) I'd say stop worrying and just enjoy it!

I don't have PCOS and think I'm fairly normal in clit size, but I do have a very large pubic mound. I think even if I manage to lose the 25-30lbs I want to lose, it will still be huge. :( I've read that's genetic and while you *can* get lipo for it, I really just don't see the point in that. I'll just have to be extra curvy there and hope any future guys will enjoy the extra padding (which is what it's there for anyway!).

So we're all a little different and normal is pretty much anything but. ;)
kuradi8 10th-Sep-2009 01:35 am (UTC)
Yes, the others are right and it is normal. In fact, I'm jealous. I always wished mine became more pronounced. If anything, [TMI] mine stays too small and flaccid. Poo. Funny how we always want the opposite of what we have...
sageautumn 10th-Sep-2009 04:16 pm (UTC)
*laughs* Me too!!

Though we're normal also... ...I've always wished mine were larger, it's TINY.
frolicnaked 10th-Sep-2009 04:14 am (UTC)
My clitoris sticks out of my labia a noticeable amount even when I'm not aroused. It swells more than that when I am aroused.
zombiejanedoe 10th-Sep-2009 04:43 am (UTC)
Mine sticks out when I'm aroused too.
On occasion when I'm done having sex it's still looking around for more, making sitting pleasantly uncomfortable. h_h
applepie04 10th-Sep-2009 03:23 pm (UTC)
The penis and the clitoris are both made out of the same tissue. It's just that added "Y" chromosome attached to males that change it, the hormones and the development of the reproductive organs (both primary and secondary sex characteristics). It is completely normal for the clitoris to stick out a little more when you become aroused, much like when a penis becomes hard. They both have the same nerve endings, just the clitoris is more concentrated in a smaller area. I wouldn't worry about it. :-)
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