12:55 am - 10/29/2008

Really hairy.

So...

I'm really hairy. My pubic hair descends multiple inches down my thighs, I have a relatively pronounced "happy trail" and I even have a few hairs around my nipples. I just let it be for the most part if I know I'm not going to be intimate with someone purely because of the hassle that goes with getting rid of it. Not only is it time consuming, but the ugly red bumps and ingrowns (even on my stomach!) are often more disturbing than the actual hair. I feel like it actually puts a damper on my relationships because I'm so self conscious of it. I won't hook up with anyone unless everything's newly shaven because of the risk of the aforementioned bumps, stubble, grossness, etc. I've also noticed that there are actually multiple hairs growing out of the same follicle, attributing to the stubbornness of the hair. I've tried waxing/shaving/bleaching but nothing really seems to help.

Thus, I ask two questions. 1) Is this normal? I come from a family of pretty hairy people but I've heard about hormone imbalances and have never gotten myself checked out.

2) What do I do about this? I know there are threads about successful removal of pubic hair, but I feel like most of these people have rather fine hair that can be easily shaven or waxed.
forwhataim 29th-Oct-2008 08:34 am (UTC)
I don't know how normal it is, but I can tell you that I'm in your hairy club--minus the pubic hair down the thighs part plus random rogue hairs on that grow in irregularly on my face and robust arm hair.
The only hair that REALLY bothers me in an aesthetic sense are the random facial hairs and the happy trail. I make the boyfriend live with the leg hair most of the time. I shave &trim the pits and pubes for odor/sanitary reasons. I shave my areola hairs to make them more attractive to the boyfriend for *special attention* (but it's not like I haven't gotten it when I've not kept up with them).
I'm really too lazy to pretend I'm not hairy all over, full-time.

Also this must come from my father's side + hormonal BC because my mother's family is full of barely haired women--except for one furry cousin.

Edited at 2008-10-29 08:36 am (UTC)
queensugar 29th-Oct-2008 08:49 am (UTC)
Sometimes, you're right a lot of body hair can be a hormonal imbalance or indication of a medical condition that promotes body hair growth.

That said, for a lot of us, it's super normal -- and what you describe doesn't actually sound all that "especially hairy," actually. I'd even say it sounds like, right in the realm of average.

Anyway, when I don't shave, it basically looks like I'm wearing fur pants. I get a serious treasure trail that sort of spreads across the lower belly, and a nice fine down of dark hair all over my chest, breasts, lip, sideburns, and chin. All of this is coarse and dark.

I usually pluck the hairs around my chin, nipples, and the treasure trail, and I occasionally shave my pubes and semi-regularly, my legs. I shave my lip and sideburns regularly -- believe it or not, I've found it to be far better than any other hair removal, and I don't get stubbly. I leave the chest / breast hair, it's too pointless for me to remove personally.

I know for me, it's totally normal -- not the result of a hormone imbalance at all. And honestly, what you're describing doesn't really sound particularly excessive.

As far as hooking up goes -- I know how self-conscious it can make you feel (I used to always think guys would see my boob hair and be out the door). At this point in my life, I can say that I've never had a negative reaction at all, and the partners I've been in long-term relationships with -- who have seen me when I don't shave anything for six months or more -- haven't cared at all.

As far as shaving of pubes goes, as mentioned my hair is thick, coarse and dark. I find shaving with a good razor (I prefer Gillette Mach 3) and a decent shaving cream is all I need to taken care of. Make sure to moisturize afterwards, that can minimize any irritation.

But beyond that -- don't ever be ashamed of your body, you know? You aren't alone, I promise. :)
preciouslilme 29th-Oct-2008 09:06 am (UTC)
I agree that you're in the realm of average. I have a treasure trail along with some other spots that are more hairy than some other people, but luckily I'm blonde. That said though if I'm intimate with someone they can still see it and it makes me self-conscious, but once when I asked my SO about it the only bit he ever really noticed was my treasure trail and he liked it for the same reason I like it - expectations of things to come! If you're with a decent person they'll be too busy checking out the rest of you to worry about a bit of hair, and if they have issues with it they're not the sort of person you would want to be sleeping with anyway.
hopeless2005 29th-Oct-2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
I second this comment. If it makes you feel any better, my pubic hair extends back to around my anus, I'm not sure if thats normal or if I'm really hairy :-/

Anyway, any person that really likes you will not care about those things. As long as your comfortable with yourself then really it should be fine and anyone who has a problem is a prick. And everyone has razor bumps and irritation, ect. Maybe you could try using a really close trimmer to reduce the ingrown hairs so your getting really close to the skin but not a shave that causes the ingrowns.
queensugar 29th-Oct-2008 06:12 pm (UTC)
The buttcrack hair is 100% normal, I think almost everyone has it. Mine runs right up to the top of my butt. :D
_babylemonade_ 29th-Oct-2008 09:04 am (UTC)
Some forms of birth control can help excessive hair growth, i think Dianette may be one but im not sure so check it out.
divamelisande 29th-Oct-2008 11:05 am (UTC)
Definitely in the realm of average :-)
archangelbeth 29th-Oct-2008 11:41 am (UTC)
I'm part satyr... I start fur around my navel, leads down to the normally furry area, and then goes all the way down... Okay, maybe a slightly mangy satyr, but still. Lots of hair around the nipples.

I say normal, especially if you have furry relatives.

What I do is... shave from toe (I'm part hobbit, too...) to knee. Trim short the breast-hair (if I shave or pluck, it ingrows). Use a beard-trimmer attachment on the labia. Laser hair-removal on the goatee and 'stach that finally started bugging me. Everything else, I ignore.
righteousbean 29th-Oct-2008 11:49 am (UTC)
I am like you. And I used to feel like a freak. Especially since I am VERY pale, and have dark brown hair.

When it comes to pubic hair, I shave often. I am afraid to have that area waxed, so I just shave. After a while it seems it doesn't come back as often.

Like you said, my hair also goes along my thighs, it's normal, according to my friends, as well as my doctor.

I wax my upper lip, I pluck stray hairs around my nipples. I only have three that come back, and I know now when to look for them.



Edited at 2008-10-29 11:49 am (UTC)
paraxeni 29th-Oct-2008 12:04 pm (UTC)
I am very pale and incredibly furry, like a cub. If I removed it I'd have to move into the bathroom permanently! My girl's fuzzy too so we just stay au naturel, and just do our legs and pits if we're going swimming.
hexvenus 29th-Oct-2008 12:11 pm (UTC)
Thanks the gods for VagPag!
I'm rather hairy too, mono-brow and all. I get the odd stray hair or three around my nipple which I just pluck out once I notice them.

I used to shave my pubic hair but after a few injuries have told my boyfriend to deal with it LOL

I have Italian heritage so I blame it on that. ^^
otherrootbeer 29th-Oct-2008 12:22 pm (UTC)
My pubic hair is really thick as well. I also have multiple hairs coming out of the same place. Mine doesn't tend to go down my thighs too much... instead it grows in toward my inner labia and vag. >.>

That said, I've had good luck with exfoliating with St. Ives Apricot Scrub, shaving with Bikini Zone shave gel (or conditioner or regular shaving gel), exfoliating afterward and using deodorant on the area (not the inner bits [supposedly it's a stripper trick]) to reduce the icky little bumps.

It doesn't always make them go away... but I get less of them total. =)
myrcwood_rose 29th-Oct-2008 01:11 pm (UTC)
Heh, definitely average! Even in the places I don't have the thick to thick-ish coarse, pube-y stuff, I'm fuzzy like a peach. I've mostly come to accept it as A) I come from a long line of hairy people and, B) I'm much too lazy to do anything about it most of the time. I've never had a complaint by a man or woman, so I don't worry too much about it. I trim when things start to get a little too wild and jungley, and I've had a fair amount of success with waxing, but it hurts and is expensive. I've also never found a good solution to the red bumps and ingrowns, even after trying every trick I've ever heard of. Love Thy Hairy Self, others will too.
xx_keeprockin 29th-Oct-2008 01:52 pm (UTC)
i think your hair growth is pretty 'normal' and if you are very fair in complexion then you shouldn't really be upset by these darker hairs. if you really do think it could be a hormone imbalance it may be excess androgen, this is the hormone that causes women to grow hair in their pubic and underarm regions.

i personally think you're fine, but then again i'm not a healthcare professional.
angie_aubergine 29th-Oct-2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
I'd say you're pretty normal. When I was younger and dating around I WOULD NOT hook up unless fully shaved, assuming guys would not like any hair.. and at the time I had an aversion to being hairy.

It's probably because I'm in a committed relationship that I allowed my pubies to grow, but I honestly look like a Yeti under my pants. I haven't shaved my bush in weeks.. same with the legs. I figure it's getting to be Winter, and if boyo doesn't seem to care, why should I? Lately I've just been trimming the top so I don't get any pokies out of the tops of my jeans ;)

As far as growth is concern, I'd say you're as average as the rest of us. Kept unkempt, my pubes can grow roughly 2-3 inches down the thigh.. it's normal. I hate the nipple hairs, but I generally ignore them, I try to think of it as the hair on my arms: 'It's just there'. I wouldn't worry about the multiple-hair-single-follicle thing, I have that too.. if they are looking irritated, I'll usually pluck one or both hairs out.

As far as removal goes, I'm a dark-haired Italian girl, so I can feel your pain! If I'm keeping up the shaved-leg things, it's every 2 days or you can see it. I found that waxing wasn't that great, it only took about a week to grow back, but I've heard the hair thins out over time, making it easier to wax and less regrowth, although I don't know if there's truth to this.

Personally, I just like to shave. My method is to use trimmer/clippers to get the hair down as low as I can. If you use just this, the hair will be slightly stubbly, but it just looks like regrowth, and in my experience most guys don't care about a little stubble. If I'm going bare, I'll then either hop in the bath or shower, douse my mound with hair conditioner to soften up the hair/follicle and have at it. The most important thing is to have wet/damp hair and a new razor. Other than that, just stick with clippers, most guys don't notice anyways.


atalanta0jess 29th-Oct-2008 02:40 pm (UTC)
Honestly, that sounds very very normal. Basically, that's how hairy I am, and I don't consider myself to be VERY hairy. I consider myself to be only moderately hairy!! ;) I know it seems like everyone has perfect bikini lines...that's the main thing I feel embarrassed about at times. But they don't! Everyone DOESN'T have a perfect bikini line! I promise!

My recommendation is that you don't do anything about the hair. ;) That's the line of defense (or lack there of!) that I've chosen. And my partner doesn't really care. He prefers that my legs and pits are shaven, but he certainly doesn't think I'm gross when they're not. Likewise, he likes my pubes trimmed back so they aren't all up in his face, but that doesn't mean I don't get any lovin' when they're wild.

Remember, hairy can be beautiful too!!
1girl 29th-Oct-2008 03:12 pm (UTC)
This is why I love vagpag! :)

I'm in the "pretty darn hairy" category myself. My legs from knee down are very hairy, it somehow skips my thighs but I have rogue pubes and stomach hair, a few errant breast hairs and chin hair. I feel like my arm hair is also thicker than your average woman, but I've learned to deal with it. I lasered the chin and bikini area hair, simply because it was effecting the quality of my life (the chin hair made me soooo self-conscious and I would get painful, infected ingrown hairs in my bikini area). The rest I just sort of ignore. I shave if I'm wearing a bathing suit or skirt but otherwise I don't care, and it hasn't effected my relationships at all. Weirdly, the only hair that bothers me these days is toe hair! It's annoying because I forget to shave it and it's an awkward place to remove hair anyway. I always end up nicking myself on the toe with my razor.

Seriously, guys care much less about this stuff than you think, especially if you are confident and don't draw attention to it. They'll only notice if you make them notice by acting self conscious about it.
erotica_jones 29th-Oct-2008 04:23 pm (UTC)
I kind of lucked out, I'm not really hairy and the hair that I do have is blonde & fine.
You said that you feel like fine hair can be easily shaven or waxed, but let me tell you, i have just the opposite problem. My hair is visible, but its so fine that the wax always fails to catch it. Same with shaving, I always have patches that I've missed. It sucks.

My understanding is that coarser hair is easier to take care of, and the more you wax the finer your hair becomes.
tokio 29th-Oct-2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
To me, you sound like you're just on the hairier end of the normal/average spectrum. I recommend sugar waxing. I believe the tradition began in India where, well, women have supposedly been quite a bit hairier. I wouldn't know anything about that, personally. As far as I know, sugaring can be difficult to work out, but the results are fabulous. Just do a bit of research on it and see if it's feasible for your lifestyle. You make all the ingredients yourself and you wax it yourself.
tokio 29th-Oct-2008 08:47 pm (UTC)
By the way, I am decidedly UNHAIRY. Blame the 1/4 Cherokee or the fact that I spent years as a teenager trying to get rid of whatever body hair I could find and now I'm left with little to nothing. Even still, my pubic hair can get really super crazy, partially because it's straight rather than curly, so it just.. I can't even describe how hilarious it looks if I don't trim. And, no, my bikini line is FAR from perfect. Whenever I wear panties, you can see the hair poking out. If a lover said anything about it to me or asked me to keep it "clean," I'd probably tell him to shave his balls and then get back to me.
secretarydiary 29th-Oct-2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
I just made this name, and stumbled across VP. I'm very glad I did :)

Like the rest of the lovely ladies here have said - average. I'm half Russian, pale skinned, dark haired (need I say more?). I would throw another method into the mix, but the girls have touched on most of them already!

I will say this though. My boyfriend does know about it, and you know what? Nothing is different. On the blue moons when it *is* brought up he's either A) really supportive
or B) making jokes right along with me!

And any guy who does not recognize how special you are because of "hair" is not worth a single precious part of you, anyway.

It's perfectly natural :) There are more than 20 comments regarding this topic, so don't feel alone. We're right there with you!
wiccapriestess9 29th-Oct-2008 10:05 pm (UTC)
thank god i am blonde, because if i wasn't i would look pretty crazy..


i got lucky with no coarse hairs on my face/breasts butr let me tell you, i've got a gazillion fine, white/blonde hairs covering me.. my arms are hairier than my boyfriends,but again, white/blonde and fine.. i shave my pubic area, and i have shaved for years and years and years.. i started shaving when i was 16 and never looked back.. i usually let it grow to about a 1/4 to a 1/2 inch i have never actually let it grow all the way in, because once it reaches about 1/2 inch, i must shave it. for a long time, i would get the irritating bumps, and whatnot, but i find if i soak in the tub for ten to 15 minutes, then shave with hot hot water to rinse the blade, preferrably a new blade, i use my Venus only 4-5 times before chucking it..
e_moo1 30th-Oct-2008 12:37 am (UTC)
Left up to my au natur-al self, I am a pretty hairy person and very aware of people's reactions to it. I shaved everything except my head, my eyelashes and brows - literally everything. My chin (hairs get coarse if I don't pluck them there), my "side burns" my "mustache" my underarms - which btw you can still see the hairs under the skin so they're very dark and coarse - my chest hair including nipple hair (which a few of them are also dark and coarse) and the treasure trail (again some dark and coarse) the pubes that go halfway down my legs and all the way around the anus, and my legs themselves. There's even a couple on the tops of the feet and toes. I'm beyond hairy - I'm right down furry. And I can't believe I just admitted that stuff online.
I'm pretty much a hair phobic's nightmare. I've tried everything except permanent removal. I was desperate enough to find something that got rid of the whole "hair under the skin" look (shaving had the right "feel" but there was no hiding I had hair) so I made my own sugar wax. It's the best stuff I've tried. Yes, it hurt like my skin was on fire at first but eventually I was hair free for more than a day at a time. I'm telling you, this stuff rips through the coarsest and thickest hair. The more I did it, the easier it got and the less hair grew back. Now I'm on maintenance and it's pretty easy to take care of.
If you want, I can give you the recipe and the little pointers and secrets I've learned about technique. I know what you're going through.
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