2:07 am - 07/12/2007

Constant itching and dampness around the vagina.

Firstly, I apologize for posting this on a journal I just made, but I don't know of any other way to keep myself truly anonymous, because I have a problem that is somewhat embarrassing. I'm not sure what to do about it.

Symptoms:
- the lips of my vagina are really itchy. Like, not inside or around either holes, but more the top above the clitoris... the area of skin surrounding the vagina. (I'm heavy, so his area is really thick and stuff.. I've got a "chubby vagina" so to speak).
- the area between my legs can get itchy too, again, not involved with any holes, but more of just the skin itching, that small space between where the vagina and butt begin.
- the very top of my butt itches, like where the crease begins. this area is usually wet, even after I make sure to wipe it clean... I have no idea how something that far away from my vagina could get wet especially if my butt isn't wet.
- the times of itching are usually around night time, or in the morning, though sometimes it happens throughout the day.
- if I don't go to the bathroom and spend a few minutes itching, it will NOT go away and I will have to deal with slowly-driving-me-insane small feelings of itchiness until I take care of it.
- my vagina is always rather damp, and I can always wipe some clear liquid from inside it.. it's almost as if I'm constantly "wet." the stuff is clear and smells musky. I do not know if this is normal discharge or what?
- my vagina always has a urine-like odor, that I wish I could get rid of.. I do not know if this is the natural smell or not.
- I hate to admit it, but.... I've had all of this ALL of my life. Ever since I can remember I've itched every day like this and it has just become a part of my life I deal with. I hardly ever think to ask about it, and have to remind myself to. No one knows about it, it's pretty embarrassing...
- My vagina is really, really dark, almost bluish reddish... I don't know if this has anything to do with it, if it is natural or what.

So really I just want to know what to do.. is this an allergy? A disease? I'm a virgin, and am not sexually active at all. And what should I do about it? Creams, powders? I haven't ever tried anything besides running water over it or trying to wipe it with a damp towel. That feels nice but doesn't remedy my issue.
fuzzipoo 12th-Jul-2007 07:34 am (UTC)
Is there any chance that it's sweat? Sweat down there can have a VERY musky odor and might not smell light sweat from other areas of your body. Also, the fact that your butt is wet makes me think it's sweat or something other than vaginal secretions. Excessive sweating and the inability for skin to ever get dry can make it irritated and itchy. I'm not sure how you'd solve the problem though, aside from trying powder to keep the area dry or speaking with your doctor about other forms of treatment...

Honestly, it might be good just to go to your doctor and get to get it checked. Not that I think you've got something serious, but your doctor might be able to help you find a solution for this problem!
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:33 pm (UTC)
I think it might be sweat, now that I think on it. Thanks for the info and suggestions!
fuzzipoo 13th-Jul-2007 08:48 am (UTC)
no problem, and good luck!
lucky everyone's giving you great advice and it sounds like you might be able to get this issue under control. someone here mentioned getting some wipes, and i totally second this suggestion. gentle and fragrance free wipes can be a great way to clean up quickly (and clean up anywhere!) and get rid of some of that itch.

as a sweaty person... i feel your pain!
ahota84 12th-Jul-2007 07:35 am (UTC)
perhaps its a low-grade yeast infection? Perhaps a OTC yeast medication with topical cream may help.
tyrsalvia 12th-Jul-2007 07:42 am (UTC)
I wanted to let you know that the maintainers of this community will make anonymous posts for community members. It looks like you've found a solution, but I just wanted to let you know that you're always welcome to email us at vpteam@vaginapagina.com and ask us to post something for you!

Have you spoken to a doctor about this at all? I realize it's not exactly an easy problem to bring up, but a gynecologist might be a good person to ask.

What's going on with you sounds a lot like jock itch or ringworm. You might want to check Google about these fungal skin infections. If you have one of these, you'll want to use lotrimin cream on it, the same stuff you use to treat athlete's foot.

Another suggestion is to use cream for diaper rash. I know that sounds weird, but diaper rash is caused by unabsorbed pelvic wetness from sweat and body fluids, and it sounds like this might be something that's going on for you. Using a little diaper rash cream could help a lot.

Since you do have a lot of wetness, I suggest wearing only cotton or silk underwear that offer full coverage - a bikini brief would be fine, but a thong doesn't provide enough absorption. No synthetic fabrics, they don't breathe or absorb enough. You might also consider a pantyliner, particularly a cloth one (do some searches on cloth pads, and you'll find a bunch! any cloth pad can work as a pantyliner, just don't add the inserts and you're good to go).

Hope this helps, it sounds like a frustrating problem.
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know that. ): Oh well, next time, I'll keep that in mind!

Also, thanks for the info. I'll keep it all in mind. It is pretty frustrating. ):
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:35 pm (UTC)
And I'm also going to be very redundant apparently!
frolicnaked 13th-Jul-2007 04:07 am (UTC)
You're also definitely not the first or the only person who's made a journal specifically to post in VP. Either option is totally fine. :)
queensugar 12th-Jul-2007 09:39 am (UTC)
First things first -- I would guess that the bluish-reddish colour of parts of your vulva and vagina is quite normal. As you can see in our Everyday Bodies Project, there's a wide range of colours that the vulva and vagina comes in: some ladies have pinker ones, others (like me!) tend more towards a dark brownish-purple, and still others have a deep red hue.

Now, onto the troubles. I'm also concerned about the regular itching you're experiencing: there's a possibility it may be something easily treatable, like a low-grade external yeast infection or "jock itch." However, it seems unusual for it to last for so long, so I wonder if the itching may be a result of sweat or even dead skin that gets caught up in the folds in the areas you mention.

One reason for the dampness there may be that by scratching frequently, you cause small tears in the skin that brings moisture to the surface; I know that when I get occasional itches there and scratch too hard, it can stay kind of damp.

While it's quite normal for the vagina to be regularly damp, and to produce moisture, it's hard to say whether the musky smell is normal or not -- if it smells very foul, that may be a sign of an infection. If it just has a bit of musk, it may well be normal vaginal discharge.

I hope this ideas help, but I think the itching may be something you might want to ask a health care professional about. They may be able to take a closer look at the skin in that area and see what's going on.

Good luck!
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:39 pm (UTC)
Huh. Did not know there was a rainbow of vaginas. LOL. That's interesting, I was going to be worried if it was discolored because of this!

It seems like a sweat to me, putting everything together. But hm, I've never heard of itching bringing moisture up...

The smell is like... well, it's not nice persay, but it's musky and clearish, and the urine smell might be from my sweat or something. :/ Because there is (and this is so gross, sorry) a bit of an overhang of my stomach and the sweat down there kind of smells like urine too if I don't make sure to put some kind of cream or powder on it.

Thanks for all the info though, I'll try to get over my embarassment to see someone, lol!
queensugar 12th-Jul-2007 08:35 pm (UTC)
But hm, I've never heard of itching bringing moisture up...

Many eczema sufferers (like me) are very familiar with that -- when I get eczema on my hands, it's a lot of trouble to try and keep them dry -- the tiny cracks and the scratching brings droplets of moisture to the skin. In fact, I'm sort of wondering if what you're experiencing is something like eczema as well.

archangelbeth 12th-Jul-2007 12:18 pm (UTC)
Yes, that does sound like something that I'd bring to the attention of, hm, in this order: a gynecologist (or general doctor who could do gynecological exams) to test for a yeast issue and possibly BV on general principles; a doctor to test for issues like ringworm (no shame if that's what it is -- my kid got it when she was little, probably from flopping down in some leaves); a dermatologist/allergist to see if it's a skin condition/allergy (my husband has some skin issues because of his allergies).

Good luck!
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:42 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the suggestion! I just need to get over my fear of talking about this.
archangelbeth 12th-Jul-2007 06:45 pm (UTC)
(Scratching does bring moisture up, sort of! It causes histamine production in the area, and if you have sensitive skin, that will bring a lot of lymph up, which is all oozy and damp. It's like skinning your elbow, without the blood...)

One thing that helps me when I'm nervous is to prepare a script and base it off of something that I know the person is going to say. E.g., doctors usually ask, "How are you doing?" So I can say, "Pretty good, except..." and launch into my prepared script. (I haven't written the script down for a while, but no harm if you decide to do that...) So you could, for instance, call up your doctor's receptionist and say, "I have something that might be a yeast infection or a skin condition -- does Dr. So&So do gynecological exams, or do I need to get a referral to someone?" Then, to "what seems to be the problem," you could chain the reply... Pretty much what you first posted, and that you're wondering if it's a yeast infection, dermatitis, etc.

(Drinking/eating sweetstuff can make yeast infections more likely, I've heard, BTW. You may want to cut to water, unsweetened teas, or flavored waters, if it turns out that yeast is involved.)

Anyway, good luck!
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:43 pm (UTC)
I'll keep that in mind. If it helps any, I drink a LOT of soda, and other sweet stuff.. does that effect it?

Thanks for the info though!
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kaelstra 12th-Jul-2007 04:31 pm (UTC)
It's very normal for your vaginal area to be darker than the rest of your skin. I'm not entirely sure what causes this, probably hormones, but it's very normal and a lot of women have it. I do. I call it the "Siamese cat effect".

Honestly? You may have what my SO calls "swamp ass", where you are just prone to getting sweat in your buttcrack for whatever reason. I've had the swamp ass syndrome a few times, and it does itch like the dickens. The type of clothing you are wearing can even cause it. I've got a pair of pants that are synthetic fiber, and even if it's a pleasant or cool temperature in the room, I can still get the sweaty butt. Very annoying.

Your vaginal discharge sounds normal. It's normal for it to smell a little, as long as it does not smell like bread, or fish, or "bad" in any other way, it's totally healthy. You describe it as clear, and that's normal.

You might talk to a doctor about it though, just to ease your mind. The urine smell you describe is a bit alarming, and it might be nice to rule out whatever is causing that if you can.
crouchedtiger 12th-Jul-2007 04:45 pm (UTC)
LOL. I don't want swamp ass! D:

No, thank god it just smells musky like that. It only gets a little thick and slightly white during sometimes, maybe before my period, do you know if that is normal?

But yeah, I should probably see a doctor like everyone is saying, as much as I hate to...
bitchofbathory 12th-Jul-2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
i used to experience this a lot! the constant and uncomfortable itchiness and wetness specifically. right as i started the puberty thing, i was extremely disgusted with natural discharges and all of the surprising characteristics of my vag that changed throughout the month. my solution was: plastic pantyliners worn at all times and changed frequently and washing washing washing washing WASHING. well i discovered that, as you probably already suspect, these things make it way worse.

the point of this is to introduce the option you might consider: using 100% hypoallergenic and organic EVERYTHING on and around the area. i use a pure glycerine soap. it's called "clearly natural" and comes in an aloe variety which aids in soothing skin.

i also wipe with baby wipes after using the bathroom for freshness and more lovely soothing feelings.

for the quick fix addressing the heavy itching, i would apply a anti-itch ointment you find in the personal care isle of the drugstore. 100% pure aloe will also sooth and tame the itch. apply one of the two products but try NOT to scratch!! that only makes you sooo much more irritated and the itchy feelings will never go away at that rate!


perhaps on or around your period might be the more annoying times. maybe you are like me and have a really high sensitivity to the materials in commercial tampons/pads. look into buying a Divacup (check out mentstrual_cups livejournal community for more info!) or perhaps constructing your own reusable pad from natural materals (some info about that for starters: http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=18462)


and finally, if your body is persistently irritated, then there is something wrong. i remember switching my eating habits a while back: drinking 8ish 8oz. cups of water per day/ eating 4-8 helpings of friuts and veggies per day/ cutting out animal and dairy fat all together/ cutting waaaaay down on white bread white pasta white rice etc. / nearly elliminating sugar...... and after getting used to those habits (it took a looooong time to make the switch, dont think that i am suggesting you clean out your entire kitchen and pretend to live a lifestyle that is not functional for you, i just want to share my experience for your consideration) anyways, after these things, my hair became very very shiny and thick, my nails got nice, my horrible acne that i had since middle school cleared up with only occasional, manageable breakouts, my energy and mood improved like crazy, and lastly: my itchy scratchy vag cleared up. my discharge decreased big time. my skin generally became very healthy.

when there is a problem, it might not just be that area needing to be addressed. it could be your body signaling for help. you know?

ok i hope my novel helps. take care.
bitchofbathory 12th-Jul-2007 05:14 pm (UTC)
oh and maybe this way you can avoid the doctor all together...

slutty_pants 12th-Jul-2007 10:41 pm (UTC)
I've been meaning to post about this very same issue, so thank you for saving me a little work :) One thing I've found helps a little is using a product by Monistat called "Soothing Care Itch Relief Cream." I've had what my doctor suspects is heat rash for the past few weeks, and between using that product as well as dusting the affected area with cornstarch, I've noticed an improvement. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but my doctor reccomended not wearing underwear to bed if/whenever possible, to let things breathe a bit, as well as avoiding synthetic and tight underwear when you do wear them. Another thing you may want to do if you don't already is to make sure you pat yourself dry thoroughly in the affected areas after bathing. It may seem obvious but I've been known to slack in that department sometimes and occassionally I end up regretting doing so. I can't think of anything else to mention, but I look forward to reading other peoples' suggestions and wish you luck in finding the root of the issue.
lizs18 13th-Jul-2007 02:53 pm (UTC)
It could be irritation from sweat, it could be jock itch, it could be a yeast infection, it could be all of the above. I would see a doctor just to be sure. My skin is very sensitive and I have a tendency to get yeast infections and have had jock itch on my butt - my boyfriend gave it to me once and since then I've seemed to get it more often there are OTC powder and sprays you can use. I also get chub rub and get rashes, for that I use Desitin since it's essentially chafing from wetness and friction, much like diaper rash. I also have a dark color on my thighs, but I also have PCOS and my doctor told me that many people with PCOS have colorations on their skin. All good things to check in with a doctor about. Good luck!
nika122 10th-Nov-2011 01:52 am (UTC)
hi could u please read my comment and tell me what u think it could be?
nika122 help10th-Nov-2011 01:51 am (UTC)
i been meaning to ask, i have the same problem, my vagina is always itchy and its only on one of the lips, werid! it goes swollan that i have itched so much and its contantly wet, im to scared to see a doctor about it, can someone help me? i have no other problems than my discharge goes brown after my period and i dont know if this is normal, tends to itch more at night time, really annoying me and i dont know what to do, have had it for ages but never tried any creams?
cyan_blue 17th-Aug-2012 02:45 pm (UTC)
For reference:

http://www.ehow.com/way_6170621_home-remedies-feminine-itching-burning.html

" A number of homemade tonics can be applied to the affected area to help reduce the inflammation and soothe the irritated tissues. For example, fill your tub with just enough water to cover the vagina and stir in one-half cup of apple cider vinegar and one-half cup of salt. Lower yourself into the tub and soak for 30 minutes. The combination of weak acid and sodium ions should kill any surface bacteria while the warmth from the water helps to increase circulation, reducing any swelling.

For a simpler solution, place a damp tea bag against the affected area and hold it in place for 15 minutes. The tannins in the tea will stop the itch. For an added effect, place moist tea bags in the refrigerator prior to application. The lower temperature will help to cool the skin, reducing the burning sensation."


Read more: Home Remedies for Feminine Itching & Burning | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/way_6170621_home-remedies-feminine-itching-burning.html#ixzz23oaHEGiW
Angel Tounge same thing24th-Jan-2014 07:59 am (UTC)
I have experienced the SAME exact symptoms! It is extremely embarrising and nasty feeling. Thank you for posting
cyan_blue 24th-Jan-2014 03:33 pm (UTC)
Try Zeasorb powder, it works well to dry up the moisture.
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